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Steve Werner

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Steve Werner: What is going on everyone know, welcome back to grow your impact income and influence the number one show for monetization on the internet. My name is Steve Warner, I am super excited to be here it is Friday.

 

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Steve Werner: Although this probably won’t hit till Monday or Tuesday I have somebody who is completely unique with us today.

 

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Steve Werner: She used to run a multimillion dollar company. But she knew she had to do more to be more and to serve more so she stepped out on her own.

 

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Steve Werner: Became a coach, but it wasn’t going very well until she stepped into her power.

 

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Steve Werner: As a business psychic. That’s right. We have a business psychic on the show. She’s laughing because she knows that it sounds a little bit crazy, but she is completely awesome and will change your mind about how you think about things.

 

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Steve Werner: Welcome Carrie Cardoza to the show. How are you doing today. Carrie.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I’m well, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. And yes, I definitely was laughing at that because it does throw some people off when they hear that I’m a business I good

 

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Steve Werner: Will it take us back to the beginning because I mean I think when people see

 

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Steve Werner: Like think about that. If you’re watching this on video, you can see that she does not look like what you would think a psychic would look like she’s not. There’s not incense burning. She’s not wearing like a moo moo.

 

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Steve Werner: Sitting under a palm tree somewhere. So take us back to the beginning because you worked in corporate America you ran a multimillion dollar, not just one company but six, if I remember correctly, right.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Okay, yeah, yeah. So I was in charge of all operations all finances for six different companies and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I was really good at it. I loved it. But something happened with inside the companies that forced forced a massive change and all everything kind of broke down.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And so I was forced to leave the company and I found myself in a place that I had dedicated so much time to building these companies and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I, I really felt like they were mine. And when they fell apart. It was a

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Out of my hands and I vowed that I would never do that again. I thought that I would never put that much time, attention, and energy into somebody else’s business.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I knew I needed to start my own. I knew that if I could do it for somebody else I can do it for myself, or at least I thought I could, I thought I could do it myself. But what I soon realized was that

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I wasn’t, I wasn’t in the place that I needed to be in, and I was I started as just saying I was going to be a business strategist a business coach.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I was going to enter it and do all the things that I used to do you know I run these businesses and you know in that same energy that hustle energy that masculine forcing energy and it just did not work for me and I struggled. I struggled so bad, so hard.

 

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Steve Werner: Well, I mean, first off, like looking at you and getting to know you a little bit. You have like very little masculine energy, I think.

 

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Steve Werner: Probably can when you want to. I mean, I think all of us can write like I can go from being masculine to being more feminine, but it’s a lot of hard work and I think a lot of women, especially in today’s workplace, unfortunately.

 

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Steve Werner: Are forced into this masculine energy. So is that what change. And is that where you kind of found like the psychic element.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Well, yes, but no. So I was very different back then, about eight months before I left corporate my fiance passed away.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And it totally shook me to the point where I just felt like I didn’t even belong in this life and I literally closed everything down. Like I was the girl who didn’t mess with in corporate I sat at a table with all these men.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And people will be like, No, you’re kind of scary and when my passed away. I totally like let all of that. Go. It just, it just felt weird like it wasn’t the right place to be at that time.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So when I left. You’re right. I wasn’t in a masculine sense at all and trying to force this business to work wasn’t great and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I realized in that process of Mike passing and trying to understand where he went. I know that sounds kind of silly like he died.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Like, that’s where he went. But I really needed to know where he went. And what happens when you pass and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You just disappear, and I started visiting psychics and every single time I went to a medium or psychic, they would say to me, you are psychic, you have, you are like that psychic

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And he started telling me things. And I realized that not everybody

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Would could look at somebody and know what their thoughts are, and know their personality. Not everybody saw their future. Like I had my entire life. I didn’t realize, other people weren’t like this because I hadn’t been this way my entire life.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I just had to start using the tools that I already had to my advantage. Instead of just ignoring the things that I heard in my head, or the things that I saw because I spent years ignoring them just completely ignored.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So when I did that. So I just didn’t want to cut you off. So when I did that I it was scary because like I said I was in corporate and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: What happened was is that I now was seeing that I could be psychic and I have guide. So there are people I talked to what you can’t see them only I can see them or somebody psychic

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And they were constantly say you have to bring your psychic energy into your business.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I was like okay yeah that sounds normal because you just want me to now go back to like bankers and accountants and realtors and investors and doctors and all these people that I’m used to work with and be like, oh, by the way, guys. I’m psychic

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I was like, they’re gonna laugh at me. It’s like a joke. This is a joke.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And it was so scary to even think about bringing this element in because I thought of psychics, the way you explained them like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Penned pendulums hanging from next weird outfits and i that is not me. And I wasn’t going to do that.

 

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Steve Werner: Well, okay. So, I mean, that makes total sense because you were like you said in the corporate boardroom running these businesses like high power.

 

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Steve Werner: Definitely like going for it. And I think if a psychic would have walked in, when you were in that mode, you would have been like GT F O H, like, get out.

 

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Steve Werner: Yeah. So you were switching you went to do this business coaching. How is business coaching going for you. Let’s talk about that for a second.

 

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Steve Werner: What were you trying to do taught walk me through some of the things that you were trying to do, how are you trying to get business. And how was it going

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Yeah, so it was is going absolutely terrible in it, frustrated me because I could run somebody’s business and I know how to run businesses. I know, I know what they’re needed. And I felt so out of my

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Element. I felt like I had no idea what to do or how to even start it and it was like I had this huge resistance every single time I would

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You know, go out and meet people. I was so resistant to connecting with people that I had already be connected with before because

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Of these new things that I realized about myself, but I started to

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But they would enter started to dig into a lot of deep like spiritual understanding and Law of Attraction manifesting and that was just at the beginning level.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And when somebody would tell me about something that they were struggling with in their business. I’d immediately.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: See what it was, but then I would be like, I can’t say that because they’ll be like, how do you know that so I had these constant internal battles with myself and I wanted to, I was trying to figure out how to give them the information I knew they needed

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And so I would like lead them down this path to help them to try to tell me the information that would make it seem okay normal that I tell you this crazy stuff. I shouldn’t know about. So it was so hard and I

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I wasn’t making money at all, at all. It was burning through my savings. I was burning through my credit cards.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And like I’d make you know a couple hundred dollars there I’d make $1,000 this month. I’d made $2,000 and that was nothing for me that was nothing.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And it got so discouraging. And every time I asked, like what am I doing wrong. The my guides would say you must admit, who you are.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Like, you must admit, who you are. You must you must own who you are and what you’re capable of. You must be the psychic that you’re supposed to be, but for me it was just, it just felt so weird at the time.

 

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Steve Werner: So, okay. First off,

 

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Steve Werner: Like, I’m glad that you can look back and see that because I think a lot of people would never like they would just be like, shut up, shut up, shut up.

 

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Steve Werner: Yeah. Um, but secondly I want to talk about what are you charging for your services at the time, like just a ballpark, because I know that’s a while ago.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Yeah i i not not anywhere near what I’m charging right now. Um, I think it was like an IT bb. Gosh, I probably was charging like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Couple hundred bucks for like a session or like if I was going to go in and work in a corporation and you know do an evaluation. It was like a couple thousand dollars like nothing compared to what I should have been charging it was because I didn’t believe in myself. I didn’t

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I was so worried

 

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Steve Werner: That’s the exact point that I want people if you’re sitting there and you’re like, I’m struggling in my business. I’m having a hard time selling I’m having a hard time attracting

 

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Steve Werner: Customers, it’s because you are not sold on what you’re doing. You are not being honest with yourself. You don’t really believe that if you believe in something to your core.

 

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Steve Werner: The minute you believe in something 100% you will start shouting from the rooftops, people will not be able

 

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Steve Werner: To turn you off and they will be magnetically attracted so to lead into that carry what happened like what finally broke for you and you were like f it this is who I am. This is what I’m doing.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Yeah, I had foreclosure papers at my house is what broke it for me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I’m a single mom with three kids, I had blown through my savings I had like maxed out my credit card debt and I went into this business with like $150,000 worth of credit, like I had no debt.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I had six months worth of savings. I made a decent amount of money.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I had blown through all of that I had foreclosure papers at my house and I was scared. And I don’t want anyone to know about it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So it was like, Fine, I’ll do anything and my guides were like then admit that you’re a psychic like admitted. And it’s interesting because when I started doing that. Like, I went for

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Gosh, it has to have been about a year.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: That I did that, that I I fought like fought with myself and fought with the guides and thought with what I really knew deep inside to try to like prove that I could do it the way I wanted to do it or the way I thought I should be doing it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: To the point where I would go, I went in. It wasn’t that long ago. So this is kind of silly but I went door to door for several with several businesses to offer my services and I

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And you’re right, like when you’re in alignment you scream it from the rooftops. I literally would go in and be like,

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I’m carrying I can help you. And I couldn’t wait to get out of there. I couldn’t wait to walk out the door, where now I’m like can I tell you about what I do, like, Can we sit down. Can I can explain it. You can I show you and I wasn’t in that space.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And it was the fact that I was facing financial ruin. Losing my house in and ultimately for me. It just felt like such a failure and a disgrace to, like, who I was that I was like, Fine.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: If you want me to call myself a psychic I’ll call myself a psychic. Fine, I’ll just do it anything now. It’s like, I’d rather that than have people be like oh my god she lost her house.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So it was more like you know like a pride thing that I was like fine psychic the least of my worries, I’ll do that.

 

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Steve Werner: So I mean right there. You touched on something else as well. It’s usually our ego that tells us that we have to do what other people are saying because we’re going to be judged. Right.

 

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Steve Werner: If our ego is you know here yapping in our ear.

 

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Steve Werner: You’re gonna call you crazy. Well, I can’t do that. So I’m going to be normal and let’s let’s look at the business landscape. I don’t care what business you’re in, whether you’re in business coaching.

 

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Steve Werner: Whether you’re a consultant, whether you’re an advertising agency, whether you’re a chiropractor. If you are normal. If you are vanilla. If you are baseline. You’re not making money. You’re not serving people very well. You’re probably struggling

 

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Steve Werner: Yeah. So finally, your ego, you get the foreclosure papers for me. I mean I burned through not as much as you I burned through about 30 k, which was all my life savings.

 

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Steve Werner: On and I was like, what am I doing, and that was that was the moment that I realized like, maybe I don’t have all the answers, and I should go like learn some stuff. Um, I think it’s interesting. I know you and I talked off camera about like, it seems like the universe has this way of

 

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Steve Werner: Being like, are you in. Are you out because I was getting job offers

 

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Steve Werner: I was getting contacted by headhunters with

 

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Steve Werner: Six figure job offers

 

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Steve Werner: I was like, No, no, like, I believe this. I remember like very clearly being like, I’m living in my friends utility room an eight by eight room with no windows that very grateful to have the room, but not not the luxury. Yeah. Right. And I was like,

 

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Steve Werner: I can solve all this tomorrow. I have a 20 K signing bonus and $110,000 a year salary. I can sign on to tomorrow, what am I doing

 

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Steve Werner: And like I’m reading library books and I was at the course that changed it off for me was a cassette tape course that somebody donated to the library that had to listen to my car because I didn’t have a cassette player.

 

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Steve Werner: Um, I went to the thrift store, buy one. But that’s, that was mine. Yours, you got foreclosure. Foreclosure papers with kids. You’re like, Screw it. I’m a psychic. So what happened. Tell me, tell me, like the, what was the journey from there.

 

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Steve Werner: Did you just post on Facebook like I’m a psychic and it started raining money on you.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Kinda, yeah. In all honesty, it did well because I had spent like a year to 18 months really mastering my skill, like I did a lot of learning in that time.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Anytime I didn’t like things didn’t work out my coaching business. I went back to like Reese reassessing evaluating they know what to do to figure out what you’re not doing correctly. So I had done all that

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I had come online. And thankfully, this guy hadn’t had I had met him at one of these business.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: networking groups that I went to, which was, it was grateful I met this guy. He’s like, Do this podcast with me, which brought me online.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But again, it was still pretending not to be a psychic I was pretending not to, you know, be who I was, till I got those papers and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I basically yes I announced that I was a psychic I said I can help you with your business. I can tell you about yourself.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I started doing what I do like reading for people. I created this group program called breaking free breaking free and I did a whole launch to it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And the first day that I launched breaking free I did like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You know, like some free stuff and then I did a challenge group which a ton of people joined and I was like, oh my god, this is so exciting, but

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I still only made like maybe $1,000 or $2,000 off of that which was normal for me that was like my normal monthly income at that point.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And then I sold it the last day that challenge I sold spots to my group program. They were $900 apiece.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I had, I was online on a Facebook Live I sold it. I literally shut my computer down

 

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Carrie Cardozo: packed my bags up because I was going away with one of my children. And as I was driving, my phone just kept digging and by the time I got to the hotel I had made $4,000

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I was like, oh my god, like literally shaking it was the best $4,000 in my life really. And by the end of that month. And it was really just on that program and in selling that program.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: It brought so many other things. And I’ll share that in a second. But I ended up making $9,000 that month.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And my business. Never has done lower than that ever ever it like the next month that didn’t go lower it wasn’t like a fluke. It was I found Lee found my groove, because I just was like,

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Screw it. I don’t care what anybody says about me. I don’t care what anybody thinks I know what I can do. And I’m just going to show up and be me and it was like somebody turned the light switch on in my bed so depressed go in my business. Finally,

 

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Steve Werner: But you press go yeah

 

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Steve Werner: Your business.

 

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Steve Werner: So there’s. I mean, there are a couple different things that I can unpack in there. I mean, doing a challenge getting people in doing the free stuff, but that’s a business stuff that everybody hears about

 

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Steve Werner: The real thing that changed for you was you were just like, Screw it. This is who I am. This is what I do. I’m showing up in my power. I bet your voice changed a lot from, you know, Hi, I’m Carrie, I can help you with your business to

 

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Steve Werner: Like you were still all like, I’m sure you were still very feminine you’re showing up very feminine today but like you went with it and you just ran

 

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Steve Werner: So I want to ask specifically I think about the money mindset piece because this is interesting. I think you went from a high power corporate job.

 

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Steve Werner: Which. There are a lot of people that I’ve talked to who go from six figures, maybe multiple six figures.

 

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Steve Werner: They’re like, I’m gonna go out on my own and do it and somehow they get in a mental loop of $2,000 a month is good. Somehow I made 2000 and

 

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Steve Werner: I don’t know if it has to do with self worth, or if it has to do with what they’re putting in the marketplace. How did your mindset change from going from making 1000 2000 maybe three grand a month, which wasn’t enough to get by.

 

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Steve Werner: But somehow, you had become okay with it, like it wasn’t what you wanted. I want to make that very clear. But you were

 

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Steve Werner: okay with it at that time.

 

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Steve Werner: To 9000 10,000 and never doing less than that. What was the mental pattern like what do you remember going on in your head.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Yeah, no in. And I think part of it was, it wasn’t, it was okay with it. I felt that that’s what I deserved.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And now, and that’s really what it was for me was that when I was working in corporate I could see the results every day, like the business kept doing better and better. We’d have like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You know $500,000 months and I could see the results. But when it was just me, I would say, but I’m not getting results like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: It’s just me. I don’t have this team behind me or this team that I’m leading. They don’t have this product that we’re pushing out

 

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Carrie Cardozo: It’s just me and am I really worth somebody paying me $100 an hour. And so I just resigned to the fact that I wasn’t worth it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: That it wasn’t, I wasn’t worth making all this money and it felt terrible. But it started to feel normal.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: It started to feel normal that I didn’t have money. And even though it was so uncomfortable, but I was like, well, I’ve got to do a lot more. We are so hard on ourselves.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: We look at ourselves and we have half the people I work with, don’t have any self worth, or self value.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And when you don’t have self worth, or self value and you’re selling I sell myself like I sell me. So if I look, am I worth $100 an hour at the time. No, my

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Sessions never $800 an hour, and that is the lowest you can get for to work with me. I wasn’t in that mindset, like who would pay me $100 an hour to talk to me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Too. And that’s where I was. I didn’t believe in myself. I didn’t believe in the value that I could give people and I just kind of like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: resigned to that fact until I started seeing the results that people got until I started seeing okay if I give somebody I tell somebody what to what program, they should be creating

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Doesn’t take me long how much they should charge

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Or how much they should raise their prices and then they go out and raise their prices and they make $30,000 it may be 75 bucks to tell them that like that. It just, I was like, Okay, somebody does not, I’m not stupid.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: This does not add up. So why am I undervaluing myself so much and I started to see my value. I started to see when I showed up in this new energy when I really own to I was I tapped into my power. Instead of feeling powerless like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: When my dad, I felt like the universe was punishing me. I felt like it literally had taken everything away from me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Where instead it had given me a brand new platform to build off of. But I didn’t see it that way. I had to see what i was capable of

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And when I did and I got into this sense that I deserve it and that there’s a value and I have worth like my one of my biggest programs right now is my

 

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Carrie Cardozo: For not now I guess it’s business related. I have a psychic development Academy. It is a 22 $24,000 investment.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Depending on what you choose. There’s two different options and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: The Girl Who started that who who basically forced me to create this academy came from that very first program I launched, she came to me and said, I want to join your program, but my card blown swipe, but it should swipe. It’s not, but it keeps declining it

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I said, Let me channel on this and I said to her, I think I’m supposed to teach you how to be a saint get like that’s really what you want, but that’s not what this program does. And she was like, yeah.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I created a program around her, which then grew into a bigger program which now is an academy program that’s a $20,000 investment from this one time that I decided to stand up and be me. My biggest program is created off of that.

 

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Steve Werner: Nice. I want to step back to the money piece we can

 

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Steve Werner: Come back to the program, but okay so i i agree with you. I think a lot of coaches consultants whatever in this space right they

 

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Steve Werner: They charge too little because they don’t see the value, then they don’t feel good. So it’s like a downward spiral. Then I see other people who go out and they scream. I’m $10,000 an hour. I’m $10,000 for a program

 

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Steve Werner: But they don’t get results for people. And so they have a hard time selling and it creates this like horrible inner, inner battle, right, like I’m lying. I’m lying. I’m lying.

 

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Steve Werner: How did you. You seem to have found the third option in there, which was, I’m going to charge more. Because I know that I’m worth more. You prove the value to yourself and then you got it for your customers. What was, what do you think led to that.

 

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Steve Werner: I mean, I know we

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Yeah.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So you can’t just up your prices. If you think you can just up your prices, you’re so wrong you and you will do yourself such an injustice.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I had to re align my association with money. So when I wasn’t making money $10 was a lot of money to me $100 was a lot of money to me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Thousand dollars wasn’t a ridiculous amount of money to make. So it was only making $2,000 a month. So I had to realign my perspective of what was a lot of money.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I had to real line my ability to receive and have that money. So I had to do a lot of inner work of what I thought about money, of how I thought I have this view that I was a terrible money handler.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Because I’ve gotten in so much debt and because I was now at the place where you know my mortgage have a six months pass do

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I had this belief about myself that I wasn’t responsible with money. So I had to go in and clear all of my money and not all because I

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Because I feel like as you evolve like once you start making a million dollars you have more money things to just clear up to continue to grow. So, but at that time.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I had to realign my my relationship with money, how I viewed money how I thought I use money if I was responsible with money and the worth and value of money.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Because otherwise, you can price your programs that whatever you want to price them up.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But if you are not in alignment to receive that you will not receive it. People, people won’t see the value they might not even hear you. You might sell one

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But then you’ll never sell another because you can’t you can’t live up to that energy that that money has at whatever price, it is because money has an energy, we must match. If you are not a match for it, you will not receive it and you cannot sell your programs.

 

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Steve Werner: So my next question. I’m sure you have a course that solves this but give us like

 

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Steve Werner: Give us like the 92nd version of how to solve it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So you have to dig into your what what you actually view with money and most of the time it comes from your parents. So you have to change that.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: View of like you have to work hard for money. There’s certain ones that are right there. You have to work hard for money that

 

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Carrie Cardozo: That money doesn’t come money doesn’t come when you need it to money you people have this view that money comes all the time. And then it’s just leaks. So you have to. We give money, a lot of power.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So we have to take the power away from money and just see it as energy. It’s just energy

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You also have to have a heightened level of trust. So when I’m working with people we do healing around your beliefs.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Healing around your fears realign yourself as a relationship with money and I look at it as like if I had a boyfriend and I was like every time he

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Came over. I was like, okay, fix this and fix this and do this and do this and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And we do that with money. Money comes in and we’re like this and this and this. So you have to have fun with money, you have to respect money. You have to love money.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So you have to change that whole relationship. And then you have to trust you have to increase your value and worth in yourself. It’s a process.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But ultimately, for me, it’s about trusting that money is just energy and if I’m an alignment with it. I can, I can call it in as long

 

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Carrie Cardozo: As my limited my beliefs are in alignment with what I’m actually doing. You can’t just show up and be like, oh yeah, money will come, but in the back of your mind you’re like, No, it’s not. No, it’s not. No, it’s not because it was

 

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Steve Werner: Nice. I like. So I want to shift gears a little bit and I want to talk about what you do now and how you work with people because I think

 

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Steve Werner: I mean, when I first saw you. Right. And I read your bio. I was like this is going to be interesting, but you showed up completely different than what I thought.

 

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Steve Werner: Because I’ve seen the Law of Attraction people that are, you know, a little bit. Whoo, and a little bit out there.

 

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Steve Werner: So what do you think the biggest misconception is for people when they first hear of a business psychic or when you first start working with people, do they come in and they’re like, okay, fix me what

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Yeah, or or tell me my tell me my fortune or, you know, can they think I’m going to do like some kind of stay on. It’s like I had a woman. The other day was like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You you talk really normal when you channel. I’m like, Well, how would you like me to talk like I’m not, I’m not sure how this I talk like this when I’m channeling

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I don’t do any, like, people have this like that. I’m going to pray or I’m going to like meditate. Before I do it, I literally show up and I, this is me, even when I’m channeling

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But people are people have this misconception that whatever I say is golden.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And that couldn’t be farther from the truth. So if I give you an example, if I tell you that you’re going to use this all the time because this happens often. If I say you’re going to write a book this year.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And you’re like, awesome. And it’s going to be a best seller, you’re going to, it’s going to be about X, Y, and Z.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And this comes up often for people. And I will say that and I clients who are like, yes, and they go after it. They make time to write and publish their book and it literally explode their business.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And then I have other people who will come back to me nine months later and be like, I didn’t write my book. You said I was reading a book. I mean, did you scheduled time to write

 

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Carrie Cardozo: No, but you said I would write it. Okay. Did you even think of a topic to write about. No.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Okay, so what I see for you, especially in business. This is about what your business has the potential to do

 

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Carrie Cardozo: What you can show up for what you’re in alignment with what is going to be for your highest good to achieve the results that you desire that you’re capable of. If you put action in place.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: It does not happen. Now of course there are some things that are just faded to happen no matter what. And I will tell you that no matter what you do, this is going to happen.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But there are other things that I’m helping you to make the best decision in your business. What’s most in alignment. I could tell you not to hire somebody and I have many times

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Do not hire this person because of x, y AMP z and you hire them.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And then you come back to me three months later, because they’re not doing what you wanted them to do. I will help you to switch that out to retrain them whatever

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But, um, but you hire them when I said not to. So now, it creates a ripple effect with inside your business that now has to be fixed. So people will oftentimes think that

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You know, whatever it is that I say they think I’m going to tell them their fortune, like, oh, there will be a woman who walks through the door and sometimes it is accurate.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But I chin on what’s for your highest good. So I look at the energy around you around your business and I give you the power

 

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Carrie Cardozo: To switch it I give you the knowledge you the information and that’s so much what

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Spirituality is moving into it used to be this whole like law of attraction. I’m going to sit here and vibrate at the same energy of everything and it will just come to me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And then is now what spirituality. It’s not what consciousness is moving into

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Consciousness is moving into the fact that you have all the choices you have all the control you have all the information and now you must take action. You must do. You must create, you must stand in your power own who you are.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Do what you’re meant to be doing. And you can do amazing things and you can have all the information to do it, but it is up to you to do it. We have the ability to create our own destiny.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: No matter what we’re doing. So that’s what I do. I read the energy around businesses around their future. I can tell you the outcome of different avenues that you’re going to take. So you make the decision. Now if you said to me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: What’s the best decision, I’ll tell you. But ultimately, it’s not my business. It’s not my life and I don’t make the choices I give you all the information for you to make your own choices because it’s on you. It’s not on anybody else.

 

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Steve Werner: So when you work with somebody. What does it look like, then, is it a. Is it like a three month processes, six months processes at one session.

 

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Steve Werner: What do you normally do with people and are you holding them accountable and giving them.

 

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Steve Werner: Like things to do, or you literally just checking in with them every week and saying like, this is what’s available. This is where your energies at because I know we talked about

 

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Steve Werner: You raise people’s energy when you work with them, but then they go away and it lowers and they can’t, they’re not able to like tap into it effectively. So you tell me a little bit what it looks like. Because this is it’s interesting to me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I do have one off sessions where if somebody just like I just need some information.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I need some guidance. I’m feeling out of alignment with what I’m doing. So I do have one off sessions where you’ll come to me, you might have some questions or a specific focus in your business.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I’ll channel around. I’ll give you any other information that I get, I always give you what you need not necessarily what you want. Sometimes that that goes in there, a lot too.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But when I really work with clients. It’s more of an extended period of time. So, we will have like a program that’s like eight weeks long. Or I’ve called kinds of work with for six months long

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And we show up every single week and we work together. And it’s not just let me show you but I give you the tools that give you the resources you have lots of homework to do. I will check in and

 

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Carrie Cardozo: If I say do you like the other day, I asked. I was like,

 

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Carrie Cardozo: What have you promoted those. And as soon as I asked a question my guide said no, she did not. And my classic man. I’m like, they’re saying, You did not promote those

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So you didn’t promote and she’s like nine then promote it all. So I’m like, okay, so you

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Know there’s there’s a reason you’re not promoting let’s dig into this because you have to promote to make money in your business. So we work through everything mindset. I’ll do energy adjustments on people.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: To help them to real to recognize how to raise their vibration. Because yes, you’re right, like what I work with people that regulation is just raised its I can support that it

 

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Carrie Cardozo: rises up, but I want you to learn how to do that. So you don’t need me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And so I teach them all this and we go through a process we work mindset energy alignment in your business and what your business is supposed to be doing, like, the purpose and the highest good of it and we work through everything. Like there’s nothing we don’t touch on

 

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Carrie Cardozo: There’s nothing that we don’t create and I really look at the energy and what you’re destined to do to really focus on where we put the majority of your attention. So if you want to

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Write a book, but the energy doesn’t support it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I give you all the details to say so you can make the decision. Okay, there’s something like maybe I’m supposed to be starting a YouTube channel. So let’s focus on that. What you can do, how you’re going to show up. What’s the content programs pricing around it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: That type of stuff and and it’s really powerful because most of my clients are like she knows if I didn’t do anything. So they do it because they can’t be like, I didn’t do I did it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Because I don’t even have half the time, they’re like, yeah, that was my next question. But you already answered it. I’ll answer questions before they’re asked

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You if you I know what you did what you didn’t do. And it just was sitting with you and talking and listening to the guides and and seeing the energy around your business.

 

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Steve Werner: So, I mean, that’s like the ultimate accountability, like it’s not

 

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Steve Werner: Yeah, she knows if I did it. Or if I did I have to do.

 

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Steve Werner: It. Oh my goodness.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: My kids will do that. They’re like, we tell you the truth, because you you know anyway, you know, and my kids will say to each other just telling you the truth. God knows, you know, like they do all the time thing.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: That I get to know everything from them. I don’t even have to channel on it because they just told me. Yeah.

 

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Steve Werner: Nice, that’s got to be a that’s a good mom talent.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I’m pretty. Yeah.

 

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Steve Werner: So I want to shift gears and I want to talk about building your business a little bit because you you were in corporate

 

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Steve Werner: And you had things that worked there very well when you were marketing when you were building business when you bring on clients.

 

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Steve Werner: And you were doing millions of dollars a year you went out and you were having a hard time selling you switched in to where you should be. You hit the Go button on your business.

 

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Steve Werner: What do you do for marketing. How do you bring people into your business. How do you because it did those methods change along the way. Are you doing the same thing. And they’re just working differently. Walk us through that a little bit.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Yeah, so in corporate we had like 60 or $70,000 budget that I paid somebody to we were on TV. We were everywhere. Yeah, I definitely don’t do that. I don’t pay for any advertising and never have

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I show up and I’d be me and I tell show people what I can do. One of the biggest things that I see people afraid to do is to like give too much information.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Or share too much or you know give too much away.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I will do Facebook lives and or I’ll do it on my podcast where I will just say it’s open channeling like you have a business question you have something that’s holding you back. Bring it here. I’ll channel for you.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I do these often because people need to see like, especially if I’m like I’m a psychic. I know a lot of people

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Who will say they’re a psychic and I’ll listen to some of the information they give. And it’s so general

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I get down to like what happened when you were two years old who it was it by what belief that caused and what pattern of events that has created inside your life because I can see that.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So people need to see that I know what I’m doing. People need to see that when I say I’m a psychic. I’m really a sign it. And so I show up and I give and I have no restrictions as to giving

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I can make sure it feels good to me. I’m very in tune with how things feel so I don’t over give I used to in the beginning, but I really, I just feel that

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And what has been proven to me if people know me. They trust me, they get to like me. It’s much easier for them to invest in me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: If I’m asking somebody to invest $800 to speak with me for an hour I best be able to prove that I can do what I what I say. I can do, and I, I know I’ve already given them information. I already

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Have I’ve already channel for them. If I’m asking somebody to invest $20,000 with me for six months.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: They have to have this level of belief in myself. So I do with your Facebook lives. I do it through my posting just showing up on social media.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But also, word of mouth is huge for me. People come to me all the time because they’re there. So and So worked with worked with me.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I’ve had people who come to me to learn psychic abilities and they say, I met the psychic but I found out that you taught her to be who she was. I want to work with her teacher

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And so people will come to me because of other people who I’ve taught. So, a word of mouth and referrals is probably 75% of my business because I’m good at what I do, if you if you can stand behind what you say you actually do and and that’s my thing like

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You don’t have to be something crazy. Just be really good at who you are and what you do.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And that will draw people to you and it will also expand your abilities, no matter what they are, whether it’s copywriting or marketing or doesn’t matter what it is.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But if you focus on what you’re great at instead of trying to pretend you’re somebody or not.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You will have you can you can expand and grow your business to a level that you never thought possible because you just decided to be you.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You just are. And I’m just me. People like who are you, I’m like, I’m just carry I just me when I show up when I’m channeling talking speaking with my friends. This is what you got. This is me.

 

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Steve Werner: That’s awesome. I think that is. I mean, that’s the best advice possible i know i mean i think everybody goes

 

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Steve Werner: Through that right. They’re like, I want to leave my corporate job. I want to make money. I need to be

 

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Steve Werner: X because they they buy into somebody’s program or they see somebody on social media. So they buy into a channel or a lane, but then they buy. They’re jumping all over the place and they think they

 

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Steve Werner: There’s a difference between modeling right i i believe in the modeling practice like Tony Robbins talks about see somebody, you can model their behaviors, but you still have to be your version of that. And that’s where the real strength comes in.

 

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Steve Werner: And I’m glad that you brought that up because I think that is the best. And if you if you believe in yourself like we talked about earlier. You’ll scream from the mountaintops and people can’t resist.

 

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Steve Werner: Authentic like powerful conviction of this is who I am. This is what I do. And these are the outcomes.

 

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Steve Werner: Am I going to attract everybody know I’m gonna attract the people who, like me, who I want to work with and ultimately can afford me

 

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Steve Werner: Um, and I agree with you. Also on giveaway stuff all the time. I’m not saying jump on our long phone calls and do all your stuff for free. That’s over giving you definitely touched on that. But, do what you do.

 

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Steve Werner: In a public space somewhere whether that’s Facebook Live, whether it’s a live event hold a meetup in your town. Once we can go back to that, like do stuff that shows people because especially in today’s world, there are so many people out there that are faking it.

 

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Steve Werner: They can’t get results if you just show up and do your thing. And people see it, you’ll get all the customers that you need. Um,

 

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Steve Werner: That’s a, that’s a pretty big one. So, Carrie, where can people find you. I know you just said Facebook Live, I will link everything will be in the show notes for this. So if you want to find out where to find her. Where should they go

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Facebook is where I spent a lot of my time. I do have a presence on Instagram and every YouTube channel and everything’s under Carrie Cardozo podcast as well. It’s the Carrie Cardozo podcast. So if you just search my name. It will come up on any social media platform.

 

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Steve Werner: What do you do on your podcasts. Do you do readings.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I have in the past. I stopped my podcasts, like, a year and a half ago. And then I just started it. But yeah, that’s i do i do readings I interview people

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I just started at this past year. I also do a lot of teaching on it or channel a channel the energy of the week.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I can tell you what’s going to happen next week by reading energy. What you’re going to experience where your emotions are going to be at where your focus is going to be pulled to where you need to keep your focus. And I do that every single Monday.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I just did the entire 2021 years well reading so that you you know how to show up and what could be a possible distraction or pull away from your business that you want to avoid.

 

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Steve Werner: Awesome. Now I know some people out there are like

 

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Steve Werner: Business psychic they still have a question mark over their head.

 

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Steve Werner: What would you say to those people. How would you would you, I want to give you a chance to like say whatever you want, because I know that there are people out there. I mean, myself, I have some questions.

 

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Steve Werner: I’ve never gone to a psychic. I’ve never done anything with psychic stuff. I do believe in the law of attraction, because I believe like if you tell yourself. You can’t do something

 

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Steve Werner: Logically, then you’re never going to be able to do it. So if you start putting that out. I don’t know if I believe in wavelengths energy. I mean, I know it’s there. Right.

 

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Steve Werner: But I don’t know. I would say I’m somewhere in the middle. But I know there are people out there, they’re probably listening to this, they were listening to it because they’re like, I got to hear this stuff.

 

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Steve Werner: So what would you say to those people I want to give you a chance to speak your mind and set the record straight.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So I would say don’t blame you honestly just because it is it is weird. It’s different. I worked with a lot of people who

 

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Carrie Cardozo: You know some of the first calls that I go on. People are like, well, I’ll say, What do you want to talk with, they’re like, well, you tell me your psychic

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I will say to them, do you want me to go personal or business and they’ll you know say whatever. And I remember this very this gentleman.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And I was like, cool. And so I started telling him about his relationship with him and his wife, and he’s like, OK, OK, OK, stop, stop, stop. Fine. Let’s talk about my business.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: So it’s one of those, like, just give it a chance. It’s, it’s, it’s a crazy concept I can understand that I am very much

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I think sometimes I call myself the skeptical psychic because I get where you everybody’s coming from

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But there’s been times that I can see things that you would never have thought coming I I was working with a gentleman. I told him not to take a $500 million deal. There was something better coming he turned it down something better came

 

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Carrie Cardozo: A woman came to me. She said, I’m going to ask for a $5,000 raise. I said absolutely not ask for $12,000 she got the $12,000 range.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: It just because I can see things that you don’t even have in your awareness, you don’t necessarily

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Understand how it would happen, or why something would happen we oftentimes we sell ourselves short

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But when you can you can work with somebody who can see something beyond the physical possibilities, or the the logical possibility of what’s running around in your mind.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: It can change your business in ways that you never even thought and it’s it’s one of those like you just have to give it a chance.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: It’s, you know, look at the reading. Even the readings that I do every Monday. There’s they’re in perfect alignment. But the thing is, like, I got it.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: I get it that this seems so weird. And we have the time, like I have a client that will be like, hey, can you ask those voices in your head. Like whoever did you ask, can you tell them, should I invest in this or should I not invest in this

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Then it’s one of those. You just have to try it. You have to try it, see the results.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: And but always remember that you have the final choice you have the final say. And whatever it is that you do.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: But it can speed up your business, you can you know strategist and experts have things that they know they’ve tried and tested.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: There are, you know, six different social media platforms, you could go on. What if I could tell you exactly which social media platform to spend the majority of your time.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Where you’re going to get the best results. It would save you from having to post or do all this work on all these other platforms you just go to that one. And you get the results that you’re looking for. So it kind of streamlines whatever it is that you’re doing.

 

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Steve Werner: Awesome. Carrie, I just want to say thank you so much for coming on. You have been amazing guest on. I had a lot of fun interviewing you one last time. Where can people find you on Facebook under Carrie Cardoza is that it

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Yep, yep. Everywhere just carry Cardozo

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Everywhere you go. Yep.

 

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Carrie Cardozo: Thank you so much for having me. This is so much fun. I really enjoyed it. And thanks for being open. I know this is

 

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Carrie Cardozo: All new to you as well. So

 

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Steve Werner: No worries. I’m curious about everything. I love interviewing people and chatting with them. You are great sport and you shared a lot of really valuable, valuable information.

 

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Steve Werner: To everybody else. Thank you so much for tuning in and having an open mind. Make sure you check out Carrie Cardozo when she does a Facebook Live, you might get blown away. You never know until next time, take action change lives and make money. We’ll see you soon.

 

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